This New year is turning out really right 😂😂😂. Posted on Facebook by Ava Jhamin / Trinity Aironaut both accusing owners, publishers and editors of January Issue of Kultivate Magazine – Johannes1977 and Eleseren Brianna of stealing one of the images previously published in the October issue of Diversity Magazine – Publisher Ava Jhamin. Below is the image stolen and a lengthy chat conversation on Facebook which we couldn’t screen grab.. So hurry read all the juicy speech before it get deleted 😂😂😂.
Image Blatantly Stolen
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but there is a big difference between Imitation and outright theft of one’s image. This is exactly what the Magazine Kultivate did with an image I was hired to create for the October issue of Diversity Magazine ( Publisher Ava Jhamin) located here: https://issuu.com/…/…/l_amour_diversity_magazine_iss_8_oc/38. In the January Issue of Kultivate (Owners, Publishers and Editors Johannes1977 and Eleseren Brianna) here: https://issuu.com/…/docs/kultivate_magazine-january_201…/226 you will see a very poor quality of my image literally stolen via print screen from my Flickr page. They were not given permission to use this image, nor were they given an original copy, from me, to use. They did not download it from my page as that is prevented via my settings. They did not ask to use the image or warn me that they were. It is not and never has been their property to use. It was actually Diversity Magazines property. For the record, beyond being in their group which I have since left, I never worked on or for Kultivate. I do not take credit for the poor quality of their stolen image.
As a photographer in SL, our images are very important to us. It is our product and using them without permission or recompense is by definition stealing. Belonging to a group is NOT an unspoken right to troll our Flickr pages and take what you please. Putting my Name to an image as poorly defined as this Damages the Magazine but more importantly to me, it DAMAGES MY REPUTATION AS A PHOTOGRAPHER!
In the real world, an issue like this would bring about legal action. Any honorable Magazine would know this behavior is deplorable. If a Magazine doesn’t have the talent to create their own work then they should close their doors or hire the people they need to do the work, the one thing they should never do is live off the backs of other Creators work.
Legal actions and threats coming soon from Kultivate Magazine* rolling eyes*
Source : Facebook
The Whisperer 
I don’t understand why “Screen Shots” are considered “photography” in the first place though they certainly can be made into a form of artistic expression.
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I’m sorry people, but OMG was this an issue that was made out of NOTHING! What I really don’t get is if you did a shoot for them why they didn’t have the original pic to put it up instead of downloading it at poor quality. IDK where you people think you get off saying the photographer owns they own art if they are hired. NO THEY DO NOT. Not in RL they don’t. You people are not this stupid??
Another thing, if they only thing you can grab out of thin air is that fact that she copied that backdrop you petty as hell and you know it. Give me a damn break with that shit. Fuck me you people are fucking stupid.
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If you read… the post… the artist was commissioned by one magazine, and then the image was used by a DIFFERENT magazine. The artist is not saying “Omg I own this they stole it.” They’re saying that the magazine who ORIGINALLY COMMISSIONED the image owns it, and that Kultivate stole it. Before you call people stupid, you might want to read.
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The more you look at it the more you can see how crappy of an edit it was. Near the hand with the bracelet if you look at the leaves close to it you can see they are cut off at a slant. Looks like she just grabbed them off the original picture and tossed them back on and tried to edit them over her avatar. More proof of that is the leaves that are pasted over her dress have a horrible edge around them. The original leaves that was used on the original pic she stole were not like that and they didn’t have the yellow edges that look so choppy. She just did a crappy job of trying to copy and paste with a bit of editing to remove the background when she put the leaves back on over her avi. Just a shit job overall.
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I would simply like to know how the photo came to be published in Kultivate magazine. It was removed and a statement issued about it being stolen work but before that was uncovered, how did any image even manage to make it into the published magazine without proper usage permission in the first place? Kultivate needs to get a good proofreader and fact-checker.
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Trinity as an Edge Stylist and they agree to have images shown in their magazine apparently. I am not an Edge Stylist, but thats what a few of them have told me anyways. So the image wasnt stolen, despite Trinity claiming in the first place it was.
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was^
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Who’s Ava Jhamin?
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simple way to look at this…
you go to Facebook to gripe that your bike has been stolen
someone else sees your photo of said stolen bike and recognizes it as one that was stolen from someone else
now change Facebook to the police
and the police are going too………
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She deleted it with all the comments and added the credits on the cropped image. Going to bed and have a good night all.
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Is it just me or did the WHOLE image disappear?
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yes it seems to have been deleted from flickr
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But it’s still here on the SL Whisperer for all to see.
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I looked at it on facebook and I can see the leaves she added and I can also see where she took them from the image and just tried to cut them out and repaste them. Holy crap it looks horrid.
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They can delete all they want to, but I am sure numerous people have screenshots of it and it is always posted on here of course.
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That’s ok I have screenshots from flickr before she mentioned the original artwork and after she was caught and added the credit at the end. inertia Rose will have those.
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Thank you! I didn’t do that because I mistakenly thought that she might have some sense of morality, but apparently I was wrong.
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From her site: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
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Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
She did not do any of that. She did not provide a link to the license. She claimed it as her own. Even said it was someone else’s property and not the actual creator’s property. She did not mention the changes on the flickr page that she blasted her BS on. She did not credit the original creator until called out on it. She cropped out the original creator’s credit mark on the image.
NoDerivatives — If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material.
She distributed it. Plain and simple she’s caught.
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Careful Trinity is deleting comments because she’s edited what she wrote to finally show credit even though she CROPPED out the actual credit. Let it be known she only added credit after she was caught.
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Ha she blocked me so I couldn’t post how she added credit to the creator after she got caught stealing. What a crazy bish she is.
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What are you smoking trinity did nothing wrong……She is deleting nothing.
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Uhh yeah she did. I had my comments deleted twice. And blocked from her pic. So yeah I think I know what i’m talking about. She got called out on not crediting the original creator. And since I see a screenshot of her facebook from when this all started and no credit to the creator there also it truly shows that she was not crediting at all. So unless you are me and Trinity then you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to the deletion of my posts on the flickr.
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umm yes she is deleting comments
https://flic.kr/p/PGbQSr
https://flic.kr/p/QSjpTC
https://flic.kr/p/QSjpVm
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Oh, how the plot thickens: John/Eles STOLE Trinity’s STOLEN photography. This is hilarious and pathetic. Why hasn’t anyone commented on how John can’t even spell their magazine name right? Or how they have their folio appearing on the cover: https://gyazo.com/0450ba081ab7e38ad5822cc468148ef7 as in “KULTIATE MAGAZINE- January 2017 PAGE”
How embarrassing! And that’s how the folio appears throughout the ENTIRE magazine. Here’s another sample: https://gyazo.com/43bfaf24a0251c72ac0a47f3998ae7d3
You would think when he had to re-upload the magazine, he would have at least fixed that… and the spelling of Kultiate! Bravo, John and Eles. Once again you display your amazing propensity for creating a horrifyingly abysmal publication. Viva Kultiate 2017!
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So Trinity Aironaut did this in 2009 and “borrowed” from it to redo a new photo? inertiarose.deviantart.com/art/They-call-me-Fall-139548167
that is IF we assume Trinity Aironaut is Inertia Rose from Deviant Art
cause if Trinity is not then SHE stole someone else work that licensed under a
Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License.
Granted Inertia Rose’s DA profile says she is from Canada – and Trinity’s says she is from washington DC
So it seems we can probably safely assume the person crying about stolen work in a Facebook diatribe, had already stolen the work from someone else on Deviant Art and just move on after notifying the person that created the original artwork of course.
and just FYI – there is NO such thing as altering something enough for it to be yours – it is always a derivative piece of work
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Wow and it’s not even in the Stock Art section. I wonder how Inertia Rose would feel if this was brought to her attention?
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The leaves are free to use a stock photo, the grasses were added and she also said feel free to use. The image of the woman which was another element was not used. I think people are forgetting backgrounds are backgrounds just like in this case. If you would of done your homework on the site you would of seen that she gave permission to use.
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actually I did do my homework
the artwork has a CC BY-NC-ND license listed on the page you might want to go read what that license allows before you post i.e. DO your homework
from Trinity’s flickr
Trinity Aironaut PRO 19m
Yes, I did use part of another design as my background, but it was a background only. Most of us find our backgrounds from the web. No doubt if you look at many of the Pics on Flickr or in Johns and Eles’s Magazine you’ll find many backgrounds taken from the web.
using a background is one thing that you have permission to use is one thing.
this IS a derivative work – and has a license clearly on the artist’s page that DOES NOT ALLOW FOR DERIVATIVES is another. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License. creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/
https://goo.gl/UK8o9B
clipping out a body and using the “background” as 90% of what you are calling “your work” is not ethical when it has a license that does not allow for it – actually not ethical is the wrong phrase it is NOT LEGAL
You have your own work marked “as all rights reserved” – but you don’t follow someone else’s license -get a grip, you are complaining about your work being stolen that YOU stole in the first place
and people wonder why we can’t have nice things
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Finally, someone actually understands the copyright laws. Where’s my clap emoji?!
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It was linked as requested….Once more the leaves were a stock photo, and the grass was added and also could use. also added more leaves as you can see on and around the gown, different lighting and was a background. She also as requested did as they required.
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Attribution has to do with the ORIGINAL artwork
you made a derivation of that artwork
the license states if you do a derivation to NOT DISTRIBUTE IT
Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
ok you gave attribution after the fact on flickr – PASS
NonCommercial — You may not use the material for commercial purposes.
did you get any money – yes lindens are considered money, ask the IRS – if so it is commercial – FAIL maybe is you got paid
NoDerivatives — If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material.
you did a derivative and then distributed it – FAIL
Flickr and magazines (even online ones) are distribution
you break any part of the license, you break the license
you do not get to pick and choose what parts you want to follow
there are several reasons an artist might do this – a common one being that they do not have transferable rights to allow you to have anymore rights than they have given you – or they just do not want dickheads stealing their work
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She followed all the rules in taking the background that is all I was getting across…it wasn’t stolen art…but when you go and take a gyazo shot of someones locked flickr page what is that…..the whole premise of this was that….We work hard to make sure we follow the licensing agreements. We need to look at what this was about not harp on legalities as we did what we were supposed to do as far as taking our editorial shots.
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It was stolen. She cropped out the actual credit on the picture. It was meant for desktop backgrounds. She only added credit on her flickr after she got called out on it. Which now she keeps deleting if a comment is mentioned about that fact. She needs to own up to what she did and maybe this would die down.
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just FYI the part of the license for no derivatives states
NoDerivatives — If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material.
flickr is distribution
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go read again what Initial Rose says – you missed a part there
it is not free to use
but “Feel free to use on your own desktops if you think it’s worthy!”
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So Trinity Aironaut did this in 2009 and “borrowed” from it to redo a new photo? http://inertiarose.deviantart.com/art/They-call-me-Fall-139548167
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LMAO @ “damages my reputation as a photographer”
Sitting at a computer taking a screen shot in a game does not make you a photographer!!
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Ava Jhamin is the biggest attention whore in Second Life. She does nothing but play SL for 14 hours a day, she even schedules her real life around Second Life. Her house in real life from her former kid avi, who visited her home, “is an absolute mess, while Ava, who is over 300 pounds, sits at home and in SL all day long, taking horrible Flickr images.” It only makes sense she would stir up trouble, along with her flunkies Trinity Aironaut. Hey Ava how many shows have you had in 2015? How many models have signed up for MMI? Hey Trinity how come the only agency where you can get work is at L’Amour aka L’Shitty. Ava would hope that her images would be stolen, lets look at poor quality: https://www.flickr.com/photos/58871101@N03. Of course we all know why she and Trinity went on this rant about an image that was not stolen–they need attention and views to their magazine. Source: someone who has worked with Ava in the past and knows how the bitch operates.
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You and your “wife” are such unethical twats.
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I don’t have a wife and was not talking to you, but let’s see who you are Thea Dreem…peeked at your site oh a wannabe blogger. So before you call someone an unethical twat, look in the mirror and see that you are an no talent twat.
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… *looks in the mirror* … yep, I can always get better at what I do. Can you get better at not being an unethical and, as I should have stated previously, cowardly twat?
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Does it make you feel better to call people names behind the computer screen? Are you calling me a twat because you wish you had one that someone actually wanted? Or are you just a sad pathetic loser, as everyone knows you to be?
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Yes it makes me feel better to name the beast. The rest of your insult is a reflection of who you are and has nothing to do with me. Same goes for your insult of of the RL person behind Ava Jhamin, which had nothing to do with the issue at hand. Keep digging, you’re reinforcing my point, and if you aren’t one of the two offending parties mentioned in the story, you’re doing them no favor. Maybe I should have said the three of you are unethical twats? Makes no difference to me, I stand by it, and you stand right next to me supporting it, ironically.
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And you commenting and supporting someone who flat out lied about the situation above, speaks alot for your own character.
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You steal a stolen image and slander the person and that person’s business as if you somehow have the higher ground, you’re a twat. You’re mad I haven’t called the person you stole from and slandered a twat, tough shit. My ire is directed at you right now, which doesn”t equate to support for anybody else. Twat.
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TSK TSK thea I am not mad at what you call me, you are far away in some little land called your head…call me whatever, but they did not steal anything if you read the thread, the person in question had agreed to providing the image and that person is known for drama, as you apparently are. I do not care if you have ire or want to use big bad words like twat or shit, at least you can special four letter words, so brava! Care to add a few more to the list, so we can all applaud you for the 3rd grade education you have achieved?
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Taking a screen capture of an image not available for download = stealing. Compounding that theft with neglecting to ask for the image from the person who posted it, and not even advising them you took it and then posting it in your insipid magazine = unethical. THEN calling them out for altering someone else’s image (which you wouldn’t have known because you don’t vet the images you steal) and THEN saying “Beware of doing business with” that person/entity = twat. AND THEN posting here anonymously all of that hyperbolic nonsense about the person’s weight, the state of her house, her propensity for drama, etc. etc. … who’s the drama queen??? I don’t know, “SomeoneinSL”, I think I made the right call using four letter words with you, but I do appreciate your admiration of my matriculation. It’s such a departure from your usual jealousy of others brought on by your fragile ego. We should get together in-world so you can tell me more about the view inside your own colon and how being a sister-wife has enhanced your life. *Takes a bow just for you, blows you a kiss, and throws a couple of Midol your way*
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Well Thea…let me duck a bit to avoid the smell and petulance from the flatulence and utter bs that is coming out of your mouth here…Obviously you can spell but you cannot comprehend as the image was not stolen by the magazine, the person who had created the image was part of the magazine’s group of models and being a part of that group meant that their images were to be shared, but of course since you cannot comprehend you will not understand any of that. Now on to the rest of your rant..
You seemed quite upset about my previous comments about someone being over weight and having a dirty home, as you are probably in this category, so sorry to offend you too, its easy to lose weight btw, simply stop eating…
And why are you so angry?? You seem to love using the word twat, is it because you cannot find anyone who would want to look at yours, whether male or female? In either real life or Second Life? Or do you have someone who simply cannot abide your twat, as you obviously have flatulence coming out of your mouth and more than likely that area as well.
Now take a chill pill and go back to that little dirty corner of your living room, continue eating those burgers so you can swell to 400 pounds, and just fuck off..
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*Leaves the conversation satisfied, licking your delicious outrage from her fingertips, content she has made her point abundantly clear, even if she can’t make you admit it.*
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We all know why you have an issue with the parties mentioned above, you could not read simple instructions so you were banned from their sims and galleries, so we know you cannot take an unbiased viewpoint period.
There is no outrage here, except in your tiny little brain, of course you will continue this on and on because you have to have a victory, I guess riding the short bus to school has made you a real winner. So here goes…I declare you the winner of…The biggest nothing of the metaverse! There you won, enjoy the winner’s spoils. Satisfied now?
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*GASP!* IT IS YOU, REVISIONIST HERRING!
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Yes it’s true, I was banned from Windlight for failing to read a notecard I NEVER RECEIVED. That is how big a twat you are Herring. BTW, I never mentioned that here so “everybody” here couldn’t have known that, only you! That’s right folks, BEWARE OF DOING BUSINESS WITH LA HERRING AND KULTIVATE MAGAZINE. His insanity informs his decisions, so unless you’re a psychic or know how to unequivically prevent SL from losing inventory, or other such common glitches associated with SL, he will show you the power of the twat!
Gosh, that was even more satisfying than all your orher responses put together! *Anxiously awaits a letter from your imaginary attorney threatening a lawsuit for ‘Being a big meanie.’*
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Actually the entire message was sent out to the group, about that incident, so everyone knew about it….John has no problem posting on here with his real name, he has did it before on some other insane post on here, so he will find it amusing that you think I am him, trust me I am not. I just wanted people to see how unbiased you are about this entire situation, you obviously have an agenda against that entire brand and company. Hence you keep posting on here over and over, we can keep this going, I am sure it is making for interesting reading, after all everyone is getting to see how you really are….
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Unbiased … hmmm, let’s examine that. We’re you “unbiased” in your “editorial” about Ava Jhamin, who was NOT the one accused of stealing someone’s image and altering it? Are you “unbiased” when you say SLEnquirer will publish anything because they have no standards, even though you regularly publish your own personal issues with other people as if it’s news we need to know? Are you “unbiased” when your staff is caught fraternizing with your enemies, people they have no reason to hate other than because you hate them and say they should too? Or do you behave like a paranoid schizophrenic, posting anonymously in comments … posting cryptic threats on Facebook against “the unloyal” among you … accusing me of lying about not receiving a notecard from you, then backtracking with “you’re irresponsible, you lost it” and “IT’S NOT MY FAULT SL ATE THE NOTECARD!” and then banning me? Is that what you mean by unbiased? Sugar, the word “unbiased” does not mean “agrees with everything I say, no matter how far fetched it is.” And in case you haven’t figured it out by now, I am not unbiased about an organization that claims to operate with the utmost professionalism being run by egomaniacs with delusions of grandeur thinking it’s kosher to lie, to behave like monsters, to steal and claim they had permission to do it, to attack on a personal and professional level anybody who doesn’t cower to whatever “power” they think they have, AND claiming to “do it for the arts” when they really only do it for themselves … to promote themselves …. to stand on the necks of people in the climb for personal aggrandizement. If you weren’t all of those things and more we wouldn’t be having this argument. Unfortunately, whatever good you do in the world of SL is tainted by your darkness. You can only blame your victims for so long, because as that list grows, it becomes more and more apparent that the one common denominator in the problem is you. It’s not jealousy of you, it’s not wanting to tear down something good … that’s silly and speaks to your myopic view of the problems … personally I think the brand would benefit if you stepped back and let someone else be the outward face of the brand, someone who isn’t paranoid and aggressive and afraid of being challenged, someone who actually cares about art and artists, not just themselves. Someone … not you. That last part is as unbiased as I can be, because I believe the brand, it’s partners and the artists and creators who contribute to its success deserve better.
Speaking of “unbiased” … do you think the photographer you stole that one photo from, you know the one … the one of a soldier you claimed is you on some training detail or something or other … the one that The Whisperer outed you on? I looked him up, he has a website, with contact info … I wonder if he would be unbiased about your theft? Funnily enough, even if it WAS you (which it isn’t) you didn’t get permission to use it, you didn’t give him credit for the photo, or post a link of attribution …. hmmmm, unbiased …. no I don’t think he’d be unbiased about that ……
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Digs out the worlds smallest violin and plays it just for Thea…..
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I am no fan of the Kultivate/Windlight bunch..but I can see why they would ban you Thea, you seem 100% unstable, insane, and ignorant. You have offered nothing but angry PMS filled rants, and demonstrated a great deal of obsessive compulsive behavior. Ask yourself if these people are really worth your time, words, and effort? It’s just Second Life, let it go and move on. The more you continuously take the time to write long winded PMS filled rants, the more psychotic and unstable you look. Plus you are just giving more land and sim owners reasons to ban you from their property.
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Boring and predictable response … but you’re right, it’s time to stop, there isn’t much more to say. If my opinion is crazy, baby I don’t wanna’ be sane. Going back to ignoring you.
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